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CanWeBeReal asked:


First Hillary will force OTHER tax-Payers to give me $5000 per child…I firgure I can get a least knock up 10 women per year. Each child will get Hillary’s FREE health-care (cause I’m poor..lol) FREE education, FREE school lunches, FREE child-care, FREE housing, FREE $2500 saving accounts per child as proposed in Iowa 6/21/07, FREE computer & on-line service as proposed NYC 5/18/07.. hell this is great.

Do any of you dumb-a** tax payers mind paying for my lazy A**?

In the old days the Politicians used to give bribes in envelopes…NOW Hillary is just doing in the OPEN…GOD BLESS THE LIBERALS!

Shena Thwaites

who is #1? asked:


QUESTION: Can government make you sign anything? A Contract? A Confession?
All the below is merely commentary to flesh out the question.
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The real question here is not what flavor of poison do we want, it is will we obey the Constitution.

Any and all of their health/insurance reform/takeover plans violate the Constitution’s 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th Amendments and Article 1 (contract). They have Congress transferring power it doesn’t have to the Executive branch. They use the IRS as the enforcement agency, which has the effect of linking medical and financial info (databases), which gives the keys to your life to 600 agencies, makes your life a fishbowl and gives government total information about and control over significant parts of your life. Medical savings accounts now in existence will be useless: people will have to buy insurance or be fined/imprisoned. The whole thing violates Roe vs Wade (privacy). The obvious goal of all these plans is to eventually eliminate private insurance and give government a monopoly. I thought Liberals didn’t like monopolies?

Are we really thinking of completely overturning the Social Compact and our concept of government by allowing government to force us into contracts?

If something goes wrong under government health care, you have no recourse. Can’t sue the government unless it agrees to let you in each individual case. Look at the legal protections for vaccinations we have now. At every level they are immune from your suing them. Doctors, manufacturers, insurance companies, government officials, everyone in the chain is protected from you having any recourse in the courts if you get damaged. =Tough luck buddy! It will be same for all medicine under a government system.

Is it worth it? Would you trade your freedom for a pot of soup? The whole thing is unconstitutional from at least half a dozen angles, so it wouldn’t hold up anyway.

While advocates of this ‘new deal’ wave the flag and appeal to people’s greed and fear, the bottom line is all this is a very serious attack on the Constitution. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of The Land and all laws made must be in accordance with it.

Government is writing laws (not yet passed) threatening civil and criminal penalties for not buying somebody’s insurance product. The IRS will be the primary enforcement agency and the penalties include fines or imprisonment, possibly for a felony. That is the “gunbarrel of government coercion” (a phrase I got from the Supreme Court). Being convicted of a felony deprives the offender of the right to vote and own guns (which advocates of Totalitarian government would just love: de-fang the opposition).

Hey, maybe this could be the answer to saving the economy. If government can make us sign contracts to buy insurance, it can make us buy anything alleged to serve the greater good. It could make us buy a new car. It could make us buy one of their surplus houses. It could make us buy a new bed so the public doesn’t get stuck with the health care costs of our waking up with a stiff back. It could make us buy all kinds of stuff. Wall Street will be so happy!

By golly, I may have just saved the World. All we have to do is give government the power to make us buy stuff, to force us to sign contracts promising specific performance, and the economy could be humming along nicely in no time. Of course we would be slaves, but nobody seems to care about Freedom any more, or read the Constitution, so who would notice?
Please do not use the car insurance argument. You agreed to buy liability insurance to protect those around you when you asked for the license. You volunteered into a regulated enterprise. The health insurance thing is not like that.

Loyce Ochiai

Sam Freedom asked:


Hey, I’m serious!

Think about this for a second…

1. Government pays poor people Welfare, Social Security and (fill in the blank);
2. Poor people run to the store and buy cigarettes, glass tube cigar w/baking soda, and scratch tickets;
3. Govt gets its money back from high cig taxes and abominable odds of winning on scratch tickets.

So, WE THE TAXPAYER first GIVE to the poor.
Then the govt TAKES IT BACK from the poor.
Now WE THE TAXPAYER have to buy them free health care on top of it all… gotta love that cigarettes, baking soda/crack pipe, fritos diet!

So, what do you think of a national scratch ticket.

1. 1 in every X wins health insurance that would rival that of Donald Trump;
2. 1 in every Y wins free checkups and diagnostics for the next 20 years;
3. 1 in every Z wins a half decent health insurance package
4. All those who lose can exchange losing tickets for $1 each put into a health care savings account for them.

This would:

1. Give people who are going to WASTE their money on losing odds some free health care with TAX MONEY they ALREADY got from us for one reason or another;
2. Turns a negative into a positive by teaching them SAVING; and
3. Keeps our world cleaner (eh libs, ehhh?) by all these people SAVING their tickets, and/or picking them up from the ground and keeping them out of the dumps;
4. Creates a sub-economy for those who really DONT want health care, or are already taken care of can sell/trade their Federal Scratch tickets (health care value $1/ea) for whatever the market will pay.

Maybe they can get their neighbors to pay 50c each?

What a great Xmas gift a bunch of already scratched Federal Health Care Reform Scratch Tickets would make.

Do you think I’m onto something here?
What shall we NAME the tickets?
And How much shall we charge?

What other modifications, additions and/or subtractions would you like to make to this proposal????!!!

Sandy Contraras